tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post6340577566271440564..comments2024-03-27T09:11:00.450-04:00Comments on Incinerating Presuppositionalism: Answering Dustin Segers’ Presuppositionalism, Part I: Intro and the Nature of TruthBahnsen Burnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11030029491768748360noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-22419906709537688342012-04-12T19:29:19.778-04:002012-04-12T19:29:19.778-04:00Hezekiah Ahaz said...
Reynold,
Is the world irra...<b>Hezekiah Ahaz said...</b> <br /><i>Reynold,<br /><br />Is the world irrational?</i><br />What's that to do with the gibberish you've been, and keep, spouting?<br /><br />How about presenting evidence for your beliefs instead of tossing out these brainless <i>non-sequitors</i> as a distraction?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-90828462570961933272012-04-12T19:29:03.961-04:002012-04-12T19:29:03.961-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-58265006316212886242012-04-10T21:01:19.498-04:002012-04-10T21:01:19.498-04:00Ydemoc,
One day.
Right now I'm extremely bus...Ydemoc,<br /><br />One day.<br /><br />Right now I'm extremely busy with others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-86136586991371275012012-04-10T20:42:00.746-04:002012-04-10T20:42:00.746-04:00Hezekiah,
I'm still curious about your world...Hezekiah, <br /><br />I'm still curious about your world view, so just in case you're interesting in addressing the questions I presented yesterday, here they are: <br /><br />------------------------------------<br /><br />Hezekiah wrote: "Faith is the only belief that we can be absolutely certain about."<br /><br />I asked: "Would you mind defining faith for us, so we can be clear on what you mean by the term?"<br /><br />Hezekiah responded: "Faith is the foundation of all reasoning and hence knowledge."<br /><br />Great. What I gather from this is that you are certain of your belief. Do you believe in belief, or are you certain of your belief?<br /><br />You do realize that being certain of a belief and that belief actually corresponding to reality are two entirely different things, don't you?<br /><br />But maybe you need to tell us what your understanding is in the difference between "belief" and "faith." Could you explain that to us?<br /><br />In any event, is the definition for "faith," exactly as you've provided it to us, located anywhere in your bible? If so, can you cite chapter and verse, please?<br /><br />If you are not able to cite for us this a definition from your bible that matches your definition, would you mind citing for us the source of your definition?<br /><br />And when you are finished doing so, could you tell us -- since you maintain faith is the "foundation of all reasoning and hence knowledge," -- whether or not Satan has faith? Or is Satan not able to reason and have knowledge?<br /><br />And if Satan has faith, knowledge, reason and believes in Jesus, why isn't he saved?<br /><br />Please try not to skip any of my questions.<br /><br />------------------------------------<br /><br />Thanks. <br /><br />Oh, and by the way, I didn't see a definition for faith over on your blog, under your posting of Frame's Glossary, nor did I see a glossary entry for "belief." So I guess we can rule him out (and Bahnsen and Van Till as well) as your source for ***your*** definition of faith? Since this is so, can you tell us your source so that we can see if it matches up to the definition you've provided? And when you do, make sure you answer my follow-up questions that I've posed above, as well.<br /><br />I'm curious about your world view, and what it is you''re relying upon for the definitions and concepts used to inform it. Why not tell me about it?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-27656501441175745932012-04-10T20:30:52.056-04:002012-04-10T20:30:52.056-04:00Reynold,
Is the world irrational?Reynold,<br /><br />Is the world irrational?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-84312094880013819012012-04-10T19:56:33.226-04:002012-04-10T19:56:33.226-04:00Hezekiah Ahaz said...
Reynold,
What's eviden...<b>Hezekiah Ahaz said...</b> <br /><i>Reynold,<br /><br />What's evidence?</i><br />Evidence is anything that can demonstrably show that a person's argument is correct and matches up with reality.<br /><br />Seriously, you post stuff like this and you complain when others call your posts unintelligable?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-10637738898485425952012-04-10T01:45:09.346-04:002012-04-10T01:45:09.346-04:00Hezekiah,
You leave, but only for the moment, unw...Hezekiah,<br /><br />You leave, but only for the moment, unwilling yet again to shed any light on your world view. <br /><br />One can only conclude from this that your non-response to my questions must have something to with the fact that faith is merely a mirage, the foundation for that which isn't really there -- which is no foundation at all. <br /><br />But perhaps I'm wrong. Why don't you answer my questions and we can see if I am?<br /><br />Make your case, because you haven't so far.<br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-69426766219247382242012-04-10T01:29:30.965-04:002012-04-10T01:29:30.965-04:00A "worldview" that they merely may be im...A "worldview" that they merely may be imagining. Anyway, I'm going to sleep lord willing I'll wake up in heaven.<br /><br />Have a good night Stranger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-61022907963618518202012-04-10T01:14:45.842-04:002012-04-10T01:14:45.842-04:00Hezekiah,
What does what I think have to do with ...Hezekiah,<br /><br />What does what I think have to do with your answers to my questions? What does it matter what I think? How would what I think affect your answers? Do your answers depend upon what I think? <br /><br />We're talking about your worldview, aren't we? You made a statement about faith and I'm simply inquiring about it. Why won't you tell me about it? Why won't you answer those questions? <br /><br />People on this board have gone out of their way to explain things to you about their worldview. Why won't you do the same when it comes to the questions I've asked above? <br /><br />Just lay it out and explain it. <br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-31117369324912016662012-04-10T01:13:56.721-04:002012-04-10T01:13:56.721-04:00Reynold,
What's evidence?Reynold,<br /><br />What's evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-71899159352355773782012-04-10T01:09:48.190-04:002012-04-10T01:09:48.190-04:00As to that "faith is the only belief we can t...As to that "faith is the only belief we can that we can be absolutely certain about"?<br /><br />bullshit. Faith is believing in something without evidence. As you keep showing, by your refusal to give any.Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-41263149494209209472012-04-10T01:08:08.489-04:002012-04-10T01:08:08.489-04:00Hezekiah Ahaz
Reynold,
I always had a God belief ...<b>Hezekiah Ahaz</b><br /><i>Reynold,<br /><br />I always had a God belief we all do.<br /><br />Faith is the only belief that we can be absolutely certain about.</i><br />You haven't answered my questions really now, have you?<br /><br />Why? All you do is assert that your god is real. As usual.<br /><br />So you're asserting that everyone on the planet believed in <b>your god</b> right from birth?<br /><br />Then what's the use for missionaries then? Why is there a need to go out into the wilds of the world and teach people about your god then?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-86762025570674577332012-04-10T01:05:14.257-04:002012-04-10T01:05:14.257-04:00Let's lay some ground first then we can talk:
...Let's lay some ground first then we can talk:<br /><br />Is everything that exists real?<br /><br />If no then how do you know you are real?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-87226951204221944522012-04-10T00:58:42.856-04:002012-04-10T00:58:42.856-04:00Hezekiah,
You haven't made your case. I'...Hezekiah,<br /><br />You haven't made your case. I'm giving you an opportunity to make your case, but you refuse to make it, let alone take it. Why is that? Why aren't you eager to answer these questions?<br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-72583236766859302342012-04-10T00:53:21.154-04:002012-04-10T00:53:21.154-04:00But first try not to skip this one:
How do you kn...But first try not to skip this one:<br /><br />How do you know your "reality" is real?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-26270086495761069862012-04-10T00:31:55.880-04:002012-04-10T00:31:55.880-04:00Hezekiah wrote: "Faith is the only belief tha...Hezekiah wrote: "Faith is the only belief that we can be absolutely certain about."<br /><br />I asked: "Would you mind defining faith for us, so we can be clear on what you mean by the term?"<br /><br />Hezekiah responded: "Faith is the foundation of all reasoning and hence knowledge."<br /><br />Great. What I gather from this is that you are certain of your belief. Do you believe in belief, or are you certain of your belief?<br /><br />You do realize that being certain of a belief and that belief actually corresponding to reality are two entirely different things, don't you?<br /><br />But maybe you need to tell us what your understanding is in the difference between "belief" and "faith." Could you explain that to us?<br /><br />In any event, is the definition for "faith," exactly as you've provided it to us, located anywhere in your bible? If so, can you cite chapter and verse, please?<br /><br />If you are not able to cite for us this a definition from your bible that matches your definition, would you mind citing for us the source of your definition?<br /><br />And when you are finished doing so, could you tell us -- since you maintain faith is the "foundation of all reasoning and hence knowledge," -- whether or not Satan has faith? Or is Satan not able to reason and have knowledge? <br /><br />And if Satan has faith, knowledge, reason and believes in Jesus, why isn't he saved?<br /><br />Please try not to skip any of my questions.<br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-16234040531347154582012-04-09T23:49:37.899-04:002012-04-09T23:49:37.899-04:00Faith is the foundation of all reasoning and hence...Faith is the foundation of all reasoning and hence knowledge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-75279093067288716522012-04-09T23:36:21.214-04:002012-04-09T23:36:21.214-04:00Hezekiah,
Would you mind defining faith for us, s...Hezekiah,<br /><br />Would you mind defining faith for us, so we can be clear on what you mean by the term?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br />YdemocYdemochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498165330193613762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-69337966030116214092012-04-09T23:31:17.704-04:002012-04-09T23:31:17.704-04:00Reynold,
I always had a God belief we all do.
Fa...Reynold,<br /><br />I always had a God belief we all do.<br /><br />Faith is the only belief that we can be absolutely certain about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-13717037487577112162012-04-09T23:00:27.416-04:002012-04-09T23:00:27.416-04:00Hezekiah Ahaz:
Have your senses ever deceived you?...<b>Hezekiah Ahaz</b>:<br /><i>Have your senses ever deceived you?<br /><br />If so how is it that they are not deceiving you right now?</i><br />How do you know that your senses and/or reasoning were not decieving you when you came to the belief that biblegod exists? <br /><br />How honest or compotent can he be anyway if the senses he gave you can be fooled?<br /><br />How can people like you, Sye, Dan, etc base the "justification" for being able to trust your senses on a being who has made senses that are possible to be fooled?Reynoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07316048340050664487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-50452924638835627382012-04-09T18:55:10.147-04:002012-04-09T18:55:10.147-04:00Justin,
Is the method that scientist rely on irra...Justin,<br /><br />Is the method that scientist rely on irrational?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-35890075127917758612012-04-09T14:13:32.922-04:002012-04-09T14:13:32.922-04:00@Hezekiah
why would the pursuit of knowledge ever...@Hezekiah<br /><br />why would the pursuit of knowledge ever be a waste of time?Justin Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17804641315202800289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-60564421580227244562012-04-09T13:47:14.341-04:002012-04-09T13:47:14.341-04:00Robert,
Why should I beleive anything you say?
S...Robert,<br /><br />Why should I beleive anything you say?<br /><br />So, You really wanna qoute hume?<br /><br />Wait a minute isn't that the same guy who claimed that the method that scientist rely on is irrational?<br /><br />ahahahahah. Robert I know you are smarter than that.<br /><br /><br />Justin don't waste your time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-55892158634263623602012-04-09T13:35:47.359-04:002012-04-09T13:35:47.359-04:00your last post, was beautiful:) Thank you. Now dig...your last post, was beautiful:) Thank you. Now digging thru my book collection to see if I have that source on Hume.Justin Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17804641315202800289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11714522.post-40145206792136944212012-04-09T13:35:08.611-04:002012-04-09T13:35:08.611-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Justin Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17804641315202800289noreply@blogger.com